It starts like every good occult ritual should—with a little tech chaos.
Mics fail. AirPods revolt. Ghosts in the Zoom machine. But then, suddenly, clarity. And what follows is one of the wildest, most riveting conversations we’ve ever recorded.
In this episode, legendary occult historian and ex-Blondie bassist Gary Lachman joins us to talk magic, Crowley, meme sorcery, and the reality-bending weirdness of the 21st century. From shared dreams in 1970s New York to egregores, astral hobos, and the dark gravity of Trump as a Tulpa, Gary pulls no punches.
Show Notes
- How a hit Blondie song was inspired by psychic experiences
- Colins Wilson’s books The Outsider and The Occult
- His involvement with Ordo Templi Orientis
- Why Crowley’s followers creeped him out
- Gary’s book, Dark Star Rising: Magick and Power in the Age of Trump
- The occult revival of the 1970s (and how it compares to today)
- Why reality itself is up for grabs—and what that means for Mage: The Ascension players
- The movies Dark City, The Matrix and Forbidden Planet
- Gary’s forthcoming memoir, Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult, scheduled for release on November 18, 2025, by Inner Traditions.
- Plus: what happened when he contradicted David Bowie at a party
This is the episode where history, magic, pop culture, and RPGs all slam together like dimensions collapsing in on themselves.
🔥 Listen now. Because reality isn’t what it used to be.
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Derek Semsick • Jason Vines • DrawnCap • Ben Bandelow • Sean Gallagher • The Krewe of Erebus • PookaG • Christopher Phillips • Guy Stewart • Buck Gregory • Bad Company • Spartacus
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Andrew Edelstein • Berto • Brad-O-the Blue • Dan Svensson • Jeffois • Leroy Bryce • Morgan Aran • Simon Strand • Wolf Larryson
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DrunkDez • JadeBarroth • Maurice Hopkins • James B • Jervis Johnson • EBG • George Lara • Will Vincent • Chartan • Kevin Fitzpatrick • Loren Jensen • Rebecca Pool • Tyler Bryan • Jason Duncan • Sev Nessus • Bubba, The Pale One • Henry Craft • Eric Schwenke • Starfish • Ambiversion • Ryan Stray • Lolz & stuff • Kathleen Hailperin • Kelreek • Alexia • Patrick McNamara • Blaise Hebert • Rachel Grace • Daniel Scribner • Ricardo • RobH • Ryan • Aleks • Nikita Kleymenov • Leslie Weatherstone • Matthew Proehl • Anders S • Bryce Perry • Michael Parker • Jeremy Z • Melissa Krause • Ean Robertson • Curtis Hendricks • thatsrealneato • Cig • Manel Canós • Darren Hennessey • Eli Levinger • David Röhe • Jason Kennedy • Samuel Tobin • Nebero • Jenna F • Khris Kinner • Gray -Trilug- H • Daniel Cuppen • Ryan Kendy • Ia Bull • Stefan Carton
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